1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Tonight on Fact or Faked, Paranormal Files. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,000 The train comes, kills them all, including the bus driver. 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Look! 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 You can see it actually in the distance. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 It's super bright. 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 I see the light, it's really, really bright. 7 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Really spright. 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Oh my gosh! 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 Bill, we're going black. 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 What am I looking at? 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Oh my goodness! 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 There's a flying saucer. 13 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 It's getting a series of lights right there. 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Oh my gosh! 15 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,000 What the heck is happening? 16 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Hey guys! 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,000 How's it going? 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 How are you guys doing? 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 You guys ready? 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Yep, yep. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,000 How about you? 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,000 I am so excited to find some more cases today. 23 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,000 We've got some really good stuff lined up. 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Let's start with a chi-la. 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,000 I have this great video. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 It comes from Southern California. 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 It was filmed really recently. 28 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 It comes from Rancho Cucamonga. 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:27,000 This avid sky watcher says that she saw a triangular shaped UFO above her house. 30 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Take a look at this. 31 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:41,000 The triangles are a curious UFO. 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 In the late 40s they started to appear mainly near military bases. 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,000 So there was speculation that maybe it was some sort of military craft. 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,000 But they started to appear in the 70s in residential areas. 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Well I went ahead and had this video clarified for you guys. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 You can see a little bit better what it might be. 37 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Let's take a look at this. 38 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 See to me that looks like an airplane. 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Yeah, looks like an airplane. 40 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,000 I see waves in fuselage. 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I'm not convinced that it's a UFO. 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 I see a plane. 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 I don't see any unusual maneuvering of this craft. 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Or any other unusual characteristics that would make me believe this is a more genuine triangle case. 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 You know you're right. 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 This to me screams military, not alien. 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,000 But I would love to find out exactly what it is. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Why don't we move on and see what else we have. 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:33,000 As I found this one online and I honestly I kind of just wanted your opinion on it. 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,000 Suppose this was caught by a webcam and it was set up to detect and film motion. 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,000 What do you guys think? 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 Wait, okay, seriously? 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,000 The first thing I noticed about this is the shape of it is very defined. 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 It's not like our typical fuzzy ghost that we're seeing all the time. 55 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 It's very you know chiseled and defined. 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Guys, this is CG. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,000 This is an opaque CG effect that he's overlaid on the back. 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,000 I mean you can even see the resolution of this ghost if we're calling it that. 59 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,000 It doesn't even match the resolution of the rest of the images. 60 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,000 It doesn't take long to figure out that this was a complete fake. 61 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,000 That was fun but let's move on. 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Bill, what do you have? 63 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 Have you guys heard of the Pauling Light of Michigan? 64 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Thousands and thousands of people over the past 40 years 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:31,000 have trekked into the woods on this road to see this light that is very reliable. 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,000 It's very mysterious. 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 It changes intensity and in color. 68 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,000 And if you roll the video, let's take a look at it and you'll see this light appearing on the horizon. 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 Wow, that's bright. 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 It is bright but then it gets dim. 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 And then it changes. 72 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 It's been appearing for decades. 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,000 Really? 74 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,000 Yeah. 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 What do you mean when you say it's very reliable? 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 It's every night. 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 One of the back stories is that this is a ghost light from a railroad switchman 78 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 who was trying to signal a train that there was a stall train on the tracks 79 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,000 and he had his light and the second train in question so he was killed on the track. 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 And this is his ghost light forever warning the second train. 81 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:26,000 It looks like it's just above the horizon so we have a lot of things that we could actually put to the test 82 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 to try to see if we can solve the riddle of the Pauling Light. 83 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Well, I love this story because I love the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of witnesses. 84 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,000 I love the fact that there's so much local lore around it 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,000 and people are really, really just confused as to what this could be. 86 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 I really like this story. 87 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 I mean, just the fact that it appears every single night too. 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,000 That's pretty exciting. 89 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Sounds like everyone likes it. 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 It's really consistent. It means that's something that we could be able to test with it. 91 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,000 So I think we should put that up there for right now and move on, see what else we have. 92 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,000 I actually have a great video right here from California, a guy filmed it. 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,000 He captured what looked like a jellyfish shaped UFO in the sky. 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,000 When he posted it online it became wildly popular so I wanted to show it to you guys. 95 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Oh! 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Oh! 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Did it just disappear? 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Disappeared? 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 Oh, yeah. 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 It's like it gets sucked up into the sky. 101 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 That happened so fast. 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,000 I think it is CGI. 103 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 I think it's CG, definitely. 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:35,000 I have seen similar drones almost like a cookie cutter program. 105 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,000 The people have taken this exact image and placed it over other cities. 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Everyone agree? 107 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,000 It's a fake. 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,000 CG. 109 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,000 Larry, you're next. 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Yeah. 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,000 I have a great case. 112 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 There was this ghost story from San Antonio. 113 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,000 The story goes these children were in a bus, the bus stalls on the train tracks, 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,000 and a train comes, kills them all including the bus driver. 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:00,000 Oh, tragic. 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Yeah. 117 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 I'm kidding. 118 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Nasty. 119 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,000 So the story goes that now every time a car stops before these train tracks, 120 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,000 these children push these cars uphill and then over the train tracks so this will never happen again. 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 I actually found this video because growing up in Texas, I'd heard of the legend. 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,000 Take a look. 123 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 We're pulling up about 20 feet in front of the tracks. 124 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:31,000 I'm putting on the parking brake, putting it in neutral, and turning the car off. 125 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Now, let's take off the parking brake and see what happens. 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,000 As you can see, almost immediately, we begin to move. 127 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Oh, wow. 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:49,000 We're actually going uphill to go over the railroad tracks, and we get pushed faster as we go. 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,000 He's rolling uphill. 130 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,000 Yeah. 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,000 Wow. 132 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,000 On top. 133 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,000 What? 134 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,000 And now we're coming down the other side. 135 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Wow. 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:02,000 They say if you sprinkle baby powder or some sort of powder on the back of your car afterwards, 137 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,000 you can see fingerprints of these alleged children pushing the car over. 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,000 I have heard about this so many times from so many different people, 139 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 but never talked to anybody who's actually done it. 140 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 To find the location of where it is, that's exciting. 141 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,000 I really want to go check it out and see if we can actually defy gravity ourselves and roll up this hill. 142 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Well, I think this one also gets placed very high up on the list, and let's see what else we have today. 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,000 This is a crop circle that popped up in Wiltshire, UK. 144 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 Now, this one is really fresh. 145 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,000 It's very complicated and intricate, and I want you to take a look at it. 146 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Wow. 147 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 That looks incredible. 148 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Crop circles just like this, no matter how complex, can be man-made. 149 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,000 It's the ones that are of a mysterious origin that are the most interesting, 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 and you really can't tell the difference from looking at them from afar. 151 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 You actually have to go within the circle. 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 So let's talk a little bit about the idea of how these things are created. 153 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 I have a video for you. 154 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Okay, there was a lady named Carrie McKenna who went to a nearby crop circle where the one I just showed you was, 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 and discovered this in her video. 156 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,000 She sees this brilliant ball of light out there in the field. 157 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,000 It looks like a dandelion, you know, how they sort of flow through. 158 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Yeah, I think crop circles is an amazing phenomenon out there. 159 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,000 I'm not sure if this ball of light, if it's connected when we investigate a crop circle, 160 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 could be something extra that we tack on, but I just feel like the crop circles, 161 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 as its own thing, is really important, and we should take another look at it. 162 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 The fact that there's two separate events here occurring in the same location, 163 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,000 that gives me some validity to seeing this as worthwhile. 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 We've seen a lot of really good videos today. 165 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,000 I think we had a couple that were way up there that we were considering. 166 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 So which ones do you guys want to go on? 167 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 I really love the folding light case. 168 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 I do too. I like the folding light case. 169 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Okay, me as well. 170 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Two for folding light. 171 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 I like folding lights as well. 172 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Three for folding lights. 173 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 I like crop circles, but I'm partial to Texas ghost tracks. 174 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 Yeah, I'm all about the ghost tracks. 175 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 I mean, the fact that you're defying gravity. 176 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Is this really happening in Texas? 177 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 That's what I want to find out. 178 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 I think we have our two cases. 179 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,000 As far as Texas goes, Larry, you found the case. 180 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,000 I think it looks great. 181 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 I will go and help you with that experiment. 182 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:30,000 I'm thinking of some ideas that Chilan might be able to help us out as well. 183 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Oh, I've already got my idea set. 184 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Ready to go. 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Okay. 186 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,000 The three of us will go to Texas, and that leaves the three of you to go to Michigan. 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,000 Let's get to work. 188 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 Okay, great. 189 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Coming up on Fact or Faked Paranormal Files. 190 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 You can see it actually in this direction. 191 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Yeah, bright. 192 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:55,000 I see the light. 193 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 It's really, really bright. 194 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 You know, we're here on location, and we see absolutely nothing. 195 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,000 We have no visual contact. 196 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Really sprague. 197 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Oh my God. 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Have you guys heard of the Pauling Light of Michigan? 199 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Oh, wow. 200 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,000 That's bright. 201 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 There is a train track in San Antonio, Texas. 202 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,000 You put your car neutral at the bottom of the hill, and the spirit of these children 203 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 come out and push you over the train tracks to safety. 204 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 I think we have our two cases. 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Let's get to work. 206 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:41,000 This is the famous place where the Pauling Lights have been cited. 207 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,000 The first actual report was in 1966. 208 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:50,000 However, before that, it's been saying that people have seen these lights since the turn 209 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 of the century. 210 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 We're going to be meeting a couple of the locals. 211 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Ted and Michelle Strong, and they're going to be giving us the history from their perspective. 212 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,000 They're the ones that have that restaurant that's got the Pauling Light store attached to it. 213 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Hi. 214 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Hello there. 215 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,000 I'm Gael. 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Hi. 217 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 Glad to meet you. 218 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 It's Austin. 219 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Pleasure. 220 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 It's Michelle. 221 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:18,000 What inspired the opening of the souvenir shop? 222 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Well, the reason was basically for the Pauling Light. 223 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,500 We own another little store up the road, and we want to get on both sides of it. 224 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:27,000 Do you get a lot of tourism around here? 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 People come in to check out the light. 226 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,500 First thing that makes them want to stop in is, can you tell us how to get there? 227 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:36,000 And after we tell them, then they start asking, what is it? 228 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,000 What's causing it? 229 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,500 So what is it and what's causing it? 230 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:42,000 There's a legend that says railroad tracks have gone through there. 231 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:48,000 A breakman was killed, and he's out there with his lantern walking around. 232 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,500 That's the legend story part of it. 233 00:11:50,500 --> 00:11:53,500 But what's actually causing it? 234 00:11:53,500 --> 00:11:54,500 Who knows? 235 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:56,000 You could bring us to that vantage point. 236 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Sure. 237 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,000 I'd be happy to take you there. 238 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Yeah. 239 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,000 Great. 240 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,000 All right. 241 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 So we'll meet you out in the parking lot and we'll head on over. 242 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,500 People have traveled from all over the U.S. to see the amazing Pauling Light. 243 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:08,500 There are many theories on what it could possibly be, but no one's really been able to solve 244 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:10,000 this mystery. 245 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,500 Our witnesses, Ted and Michelle, believe it's an unexplained real phenomena, and they're 246 00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:18,000 not sure if it's related to some of the intricate ghost stories that have become part of local 247 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,760 legend, or maybe an unidentified paranormal event, or perhaps a natural occurrence that 248 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,260 science has yet to explain. 249 00:12:25,260 --> 00:12:27,260 Hey, Ted. 250 00:12:27,260 --> 00:12:31,260 It's down here, guys. 251 00:12:31,260 --> 00:12:34,260 You can tell us the exact location of the video. 252 00:12:34,260 --> 00:12:38,260 This is the place everybody comes at night. 253 00:12:38,260 --> 00:12:42,760 Just down through that dip there, right on the horizon, just at the top of the trees 254 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,260 there is where you'll see the light at night. 255 00:12:45,260 --> 00:12:47,260 Thanks for leading us to the vantage point. 256 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:48,260 You're welcome. 257 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:49,260 I really appreciate it. 258 00:12:49,260 --> 00:12:50,260 Thank you for all your time and your help. 259 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:51,260 You're welcome. 260 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:57,260 We've got a crowd starting to gather behind us right now. 261 00:12:57,260 --> 00:13:00,760 Maybe we can go over and ask them a couple questions and see what their experiences have 262 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:01,760 been. 263 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,760 That's a good idea. 264 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,760 How are you all doing? 265 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,760 Good. 266 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,760 Have any of you guys seen the lights before? 267 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,760 Yeah, I have. 268 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,760 It's this big bright light shining through the fog. 269 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 But by the time we got closer, it had faded away. 270 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,760 A couple of the theories are that it could be an engineer that was killed. 271 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,260 Because there used to be a train track running through this area, right? 272 00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:23,260 Yeah, is that what you think that's what we've heard too? 273 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:26,260 And that's what it kind of looks like. 274 00:13:26,260 --> 00:13:28,260 How many times have you seen the lights? 275 00:13:28,260 --> 00:13:30,260 Probably about 25 to 30 times. 276 00:13:30,260 --> 00:13:33,260 There's a lot of small airports around here. 277 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:38,260 It could be a small plane or it could even be a reflection off of a tower. 278 00:13:38,260 --> 00:13:40,260 Alright, thank you so much for your time. 279 00:13:40,260 --> 00:13:42,260 We've got to get our investigation set up. 280 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:48,760 So what we're doing here is setting up two monitors, which are going to be connected 281 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:53,760 to two cameras that we're setting up at separate vantage points facing the area where the 282 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,260 light is coming from. 283 00:13:55,260 --> 00:14:00,760 We're going to set one up right here on the hill and another right here on the road. 284 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,760 And that way when the light shows up, we'll have two different angles covering it. 285 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,760 Jaya, I got the camera on the hill. 286 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:08,760 I pointed toward the light. 287 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,760 Copy that. 288 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,760 Maybe just a little bit back to the right. 289 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,260 Alright, I'm on the way back to base. 290 00:14:14,260 --> 00:14:19,260 People have said they've hiked miles and miles into the woods to look for the lights. 291 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:23,260 We're going to go as far as needs be to see what we can find. 292 00:14:23,260 --> 00:14:25,760 Plus with this, we can get wherever we need to go and load all our equipment on the back 293 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,260 without having to hike and carry everything. 294 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:30,760 We have base camp set up here at the vantage point. 295 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,260 Monitor's recording. 296 00:14:32,260 --> 00:14:33,260 We have Geiger counters ready. 297 00:14:33,260 --> 00:14:35,760 We have EMS readers to detect the magnetic field. 298 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,260 We have gas readers ready to go. 299 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:40,260 We're just waiting for the lights to pop up so we can start this investigation. 300 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Yeah. 301 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,760 Jaya for Bill and Austin, please come to base camp. 302 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,760 The following light has appeared. 303 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,760 Look guys, there it is. 304 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:04,760 What is that? 305 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:05,760 I see it right there. 306 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,760 I see it too. 307 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,760 You can see it actually in the distance. 308 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,760 It's super bright. 309 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,760 Just like everyone said, you can see it every single night. 310 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:11,760 There it is. 311 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,760 It's getting bigger and smaller as well. 312 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 If you look, it goes from small to big like it's just growing. 313 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,760 We have got to get out there. 314 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,760 Bill, we're getting close to the location. 315 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,760 Are you seeing anything? 316 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,760 We're on location. 317 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,760 We're at the top of the hill where the pauling lights have been spotted. 318 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,760 Right now we have no visual confirmation of the lights. 319 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,760 Are you seeing anything over there? 320 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,760 Yes, I am. 321 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,760 I do have a visual. 322 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:49,760 I see the light. 323 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,760 It's really, really bright. 324 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,760 That's amazing. 325 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,760 We don't see anything right here and we're right next to it. 326 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,760 Bill, we're here on location and we see absolutely nothing. 327 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,760 We have no visual contact. 328 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Guys, we should move on and see if we can find any anomalies that could be causing this light. 329 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:15,760 You check with the guy you're counter and I'll scan the area with this. 330 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,760 We're going to check for any possible radiation in this area because Bill is seeing it and we have no visual contact. 331 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,760 Nothing radioactive that I'm picking up right now. 332 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,760 The guy you're counter is not getting any reads. 333 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Is that the combustible gas detector? 334 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,760 Yes. 335 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:36,760 If any of this water, the swamps around here are emitting gas, then this would be able to detect it. 336 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,760 Hopefully we'll get something. 337 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:49,760 This hasn't changed. 338 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,760 It's been steady and it's always remained low. 339 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:57,760 In order to give off the folding lights, it would have to be gas that has been sustainable for a long time. 340 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,760 We're surrounded by foliage, trees. 341 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,760 You know, I don't see any burn marks around here. 342 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,760 It's definitely picking up the temperature differences really, really clearly. 343 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,760 Here's the road, clearly visible. 344 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,760 There's the dip, it goes back up. 345 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:15,760 And here's the point where I got the crosshairs, where the light appears and I don't see anything. 346 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,760 The folding light that we see is not being picked up by the thermal imager. 347 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,760 Unfortunately, we detected nothing significant. 348 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,760 Nothing that would have enough power to actually cause a phenomena like this. 349 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,760 I don't think we've got much more to find here. 350 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,760 We're heading back to base now. We're packing up. We'll see you in a couple of... 351 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,760 You know what? We're unable to draw any conclusions from the investigation. 352 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,760 It's time we shift our focus. 353 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,760 Let's try to create our own lights. 354 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,760 If we can recreate them, we might find an answer to what's causing them. 355 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Coming up on fact or faked paranormal files. 356 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,760 I have visual on the plane. 357 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,760 We're making our final descent. 358 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,760 Actually, that is getting pretty close. 359 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,760 I do have a visual. I see the light. It's really, really bright. 360 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,760 Bill, we're here on location and we see absolutely nothing. 361 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,760 Our conclusion here is that it's not a natural phenomena. 362 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Our next step is to test whether or not this is a man-made thing. 363 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Let's try to create our own lights. 364 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,760 That is good. 365 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,760 Alright guys, some people are thinking that this is actually a plane. 366 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,760 So I'm going to head over to the airport and we're going to find out if this is even possible. 367 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,760 Alright, do you want me to get up in the air? 368 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Okay. Alright guys. 369 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,760 Bill. 370 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,760 Yes, sir. 371 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,760 How are you doing? 372 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,760 I thought it was going to be a good person. 373 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:55,760 Glad to meet you too. 374 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,760 We're going to fly directly over where the Pauling lights have been sighted. 375 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:03,760 This is the Zeus of all lights. 25 million candle power. 376 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,760 We're thinking it should be bright enough for our team to see. 377 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,760 That is a huge flashlight. 378 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:08,760 I think we should call off the Pauling light. 379 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:09,760 Let's do it. 380 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,760 Alright, great. Let's load up. 381 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:31,760 We've got the camera on the hill and we've got this one on time-lapse. 382 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,760 So I think we're ready. 383 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,760 If they need help aligning themselves with the road, we've got the laser here. 384 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,760 Austin the team, do you read? Austin the team, do you read? 385 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Copy that. We're waiting and the laser light is in position. 386 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,760 Just keep that as your reference point. 387 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,760 You know, these poles run north-south. 388 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Between that and the laser, they have a perfect way to line up. 389 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Alright, let's see how well this light works. 390 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,760 Wow, that is bright. 391 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 We could see here and we could see the light. 392 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Watch that. We're making our final descent. 393 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,760 I have visual on the plane. 394 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Guys, here we come. Make sure the cameras are rolling. 395 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,760 Actually, that is getting pretty close. 396 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,760 They're still too high up. 397 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Watch too high. 398 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,760 I know that they're descending at the moment, but they're only going to be able to descend a certain amount 399 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,760 until they actually might be hitting treetops. 400 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:42,760 Hey! 401 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,760 How did it look? 402 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,760 You didn't actually hit the spot, the mark, where it's coming from. 403 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,760 The plane just didn't get low enough. 404 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,760 We were literally lower than 500 feet. 405 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,760 You cannot fly any lower than that. 406 00:20:54,760 --> 00:21:00,760 Not only that, at night time, the whole ground, we couldn't see the lasers until you literally ride upon it. 407 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,760 When it comes right down to it, it's not an airplane. 408 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,760 The changing position of the airplane and the fact that the plane was making a sound 409 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,760 meant that there was not a convincing duplication of the original paulting light video. 410 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,760 I think the next step is to try and see if the most popular theory works for us out there, 411 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,760 which is that it could be car headlights. 412 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,760 If these are headlights that people are seeing, then this is the stretch of road where they would be coming from. 413 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,760 If we can really make the lights of this car look like the paulting light, 414 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,760 then, you know, we can really debunk this whole story. 415 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,760 If it is car headlights, it would be here. 416 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,760 Because this is the only stretch of road for miles. 417 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,760 I say we call the cops over here. 418 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,760 We have them set about a mile and a half down that way, about a mile up the road this way, 419 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760 have them block down the road, and we'll start our journey up and down. 420 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Since the officers have shut down the highway, Bill knows that we are the only car 421 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,760 that will be traveling up along this path. 422 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,760 So if he sees anything, it's got to be us. 423 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:12,760 Bill, Austin and I are getting the officers in place, and then he and I are going to drive up the road to see if you can see us. 424 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,760 Copy that. I'm standing by. 425 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Bill, the last car is secure. Are you recording? 426 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,760 Affirmative. Reporting. 427 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,760 So make sure any lights you see. 428 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,760 Starting in three. 429 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,760 Two. 430 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,760 One. 431 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:36,760 Two. 432 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,760 Absolutely no visuals whatsoever. No lights. 433 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,760 We are going to SOSU with the lights. Tell us if you see the SOS. 434 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Can you buy? 435 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,760 Negative. 436 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:11,760 I'm perplexed now. So far, I was thinking that this was definitely going to be the answer, but now I'm confused. 437 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,760 I honestly was sold into being headlights completely. 438 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,760 Bill, we're now going to try the hazard lights. Tell us if you see any difference. 439 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,760 Standing by. 440 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Negative. I do not see hazard lights, but I see the white light. 441 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,760 And it's getting brighter. 442 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:33,760 What am I looking at? 443 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,760 I'm looking at the light. 444 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,760 I'm looking at the light. 445 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,760 I'm looking at the light. 446 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760 I'm looking at the light. 447 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760 I'm looking at the light. 448 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760 I see the light and it's very bright. 449 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,760 Austin and I have been going up and down Highway 45. 450 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,760 We have manipulated our lights in so many different ways. 451 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Bill has been seeing light coming from this area. 452 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,760 I'm not sure where you guys are, but I can see the light. 453 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760 And if it's not you guys, I don't know what it is that I'm looking at. 454 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:21,760 Alright Bill, we're going black in three, two, one. 455 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,760 There's no change. 456 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Whatever he's seeing is not coinciding with what Austin and I are doing. 457 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,760 Whatever that is that he sees, it's not up. 458 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,760 We've done all we can do here. We've done every trick in the book as far as what we can do with the car. 459 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 I say we just head back to base. Time to move on. 460 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:50,760 The truth is that none of our experiments have worked at all. 461 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,760 You know, it doesn't seem to be any sort of environmental anomalies of any sort. 462 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,760 I'm not really willing to rule out that it's not something normal completely, 463 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,760 but none of our experiments have worked. 464 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 So I mean, this is kind of all that's left, I feel like. 465 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,760 The ghost stories associated with the Pauling Lights have become local legend. 466 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,760 And maybe there's something to it. 467 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,760 So let's focus on these EVP sessions we're going to be doing. 468 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,760 Okay, so why don't we split up and we all go do our own sessions and see what we can get. 469 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Alright, I'm going to ask a couple basic questions to anything if something is out there. 470 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,760 I can hear my questions and I can hear your response if you want to speak towards me. 471 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Why are you flashing lights throughout the night here? 472 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,760 Do you welcome me here or do you wish me to leave? 473 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,760 Is there something you're trying to warn us of? Is there something you want to teach us? 474 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Can you please explain the mystery of the Pauling Light? 475 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,760 How did you know that? 476 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,760 I mean, how did it go in Texas? 477 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,760 Tremendous. How was Michigan? Let's start with you guys first. 478 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Michigan was pretty fantastic. I mean, we saw the Pauling Light. 479 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,760 We absolutely saw the Pauling Light several times. 480 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Several times. 481 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,760 Tell me you got it on film. 482 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,760 We did? 483 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,760 As a matter of fact, you know what? We got a clip here. 484 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,760 So take a look at it. You can see what we recorded and you can compare that to the original video that we based this case off of. 485 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,760 There it is. 486 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,760 Yep. Now were we able to catch it at the same time of day? 487 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,760 Yeah, we got there right around dusk. 488 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,760 Wow. 489 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,760 So we had to scram to get our cameras up and the light was already beginning to appear. 490 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,760 Really? 491 00:26:54,760 --> 00:27:01,760 Yeah. It is reliable and that it happens nearly every day, but it's not reliable about what time you'll see it. 492 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Okay, well tell me about the experiments. What would you do? 493 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,760 So one of the popular theories is like, well, maybe it's an airplane. 494 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,760 Intensity matched, but the movement didn't. So it wasn't an airplane. 495 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,760 You came to a 100% conclusion that it was not a plane. Definitely not. 496 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,760 So for the next experiment, we decided let's explore the very popular theory that it's cars on Route 45. 497 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:32,760 Austin and Gael went out there in the car and they got into position and shined their brights and nothing. 498 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,760 We can't recreate it with the headlights of a car. We can't recreate it with a spotlight from an aircraft. 499 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Maybe there's something environmental. We had a gas detector with us. 500 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:50,760 Now they were able to detect intermittent, very spontaneous, combustible gas, 501 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,760 but it's not enough for a big ignition that's going to remain steady longer than people to see. 502 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,760 Okay, so that's ruled out. Then what did you guys do? 503 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,760 So then what were we left with? Exploring the possibility that maybe this is paranormal in origin. 504 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,760 We thought maybe we could try to record some electronic voice phenomena. 505 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:14,760 We independently tried to communicate with whoever or whatever has learned how to create this balding light. 506 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,760 But unfortunately, the EVPs remain inconclusive. 507 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:24,760 We heard nothing really that could satisfy us that, hey, there's a spirit out here. 508 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:30,760 If this is a natural occurrence, it's still an unidentified natural occurrence. 509 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,760 Everything that you did, all your experiments, what's your final thoughts on it? 510 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,760 As it stands right now, it's still mysterious. It still can't be identified. 511 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,760 Yeah, balding light, unexplained. 512 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,760 Remains a mystery. 513 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,760 I thought originally the headlights would be the thing that would debunk this, and you weren't able to recreate that. 514 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,760 So it's a fact. This is still a mystery. 515 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,760 I see it right there. Look, look. 516 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,760 They're still too high up. 517 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,760 Bill, we're going black. 518 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,760 What am I looking at? 519 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,760 Now we had slightly different results in Texas. 520 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Now if you guys remember, we were investigating ghost tracks. 521 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:15,760 The theory is, if you park at the bottom of this hill, ghost children allegedly push you up the hill and up over these tracks. 522 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,760 Appearing to defy gravity, here's what happened. 523 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,760 So Larry, what time is our witness Capone de Leon meeting us? 524 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,760 To be honest, he should be there here in just a couple of minutes. We should get there right on time. 525 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Right away, the first thing that strikes you about this place is it definitely looks like an uphill slope. 526 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,760 Capone, it's finally good to meet you. Thank you so much for meeting us out here. 527 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Why don't you tell us a little bit about where exactly this story originates? 528 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:13,760 Basically what happened is at this railroad track crossing, a bus full of school children got hit by a train. 529 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:19,760 And so now whenever somebody's parked out here on the tracks, they'll come out here and actually push them over the tracks. 530 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:27,760 Now the San Antonio Urban Legend is really, really popular. When you came out here, did you really expect to be pushed uphill in your car? 531 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:34,760 Well, the first time I came out here with friends, we did the baby powder thing and we got pushed and we were just blown away. 532 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,760 We were not expecting that to happen. 533 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,760 Once you take the parking brake off, you start moving instantly. 534 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:46,760 We're actually going uphill to go over the railroad tracks and we get pushed faster as we go. 535 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,760 And it really does seem like somebody's trying to get you to go past. 536 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,760 And I don't know if you've seen trains come by here, but they come by here pretty quick. 537 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,760 So if you're right out here on this side, you cannot see a train coming from this way. 538 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,760 Now were you ever able to capture an image? 539 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,760 The fingerprints were the only proof that I could find. 540 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,760 And everywhere we look, we see little fingerprints. Little ones. 541 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,760 But hey, for me that was proof enough. I mean, like I said, I've never seen nothing like that. 542 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,760 We like to conduct a few experiments and we try to stay as close to the original video as possible. 543 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,760 So if we can actually use your car for one of our experiments, that'd be great. 544 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Sure, no problem. 545 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Awesome, thanks. Well, we're going to get started then. 546 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,760 Okay, let's go. 547 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Now, in speaking with Capone, he believes that his car was also pushed up this hill by the spirits of the children. 548 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,760 And the fingerprints left on the back of his car are evidence of that. 549 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,760 So you can see guys, there's already prints on this car. I mean, I watched Larry touch it. 550 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,760 Let's thoroughly, you know, wash this thing down. 551 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,760 Just cover every square inch where we possibly think there might be prints of someone pushing it. 552 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Okay guys, I think it's all washed up. We're ready to go and I think we should try this out. 553 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,760 I'll get in the driver's seat, get ready to be pushed over these tracks. 554 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,760 I'll ride shotgun and shoot from there. 555 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,760 And I will cover you guys with a camera on the side of the road. 556 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,760 Capone instructed us exactly what he did in his video so we can get similar results. 557 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:10,760 I'm putting on the parking brake, putting it in neutral and turning the car off. 558 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760 Alright Larry, so tell me what you're doing. 559 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,760 First thing I'm going to do is take the car out of gear. 560 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,760 Out first, in a neutral. 561 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,760 Next thing I'm going to do, take the keys out so there's no possible way this car can be on. 562 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,760 Now I'm going to take my foot off the clutch. 563 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,760 Okay Larry, the camera's all set. Are you ready? 564 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,760 Ready! 565 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Okay, in three... 566 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,760 Two... 567 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,760 One... 568 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Really spray. 569 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Oh my gosh, we're moving! 570 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:50,760 Starting to roll. 571 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,760 Holy crap. 572 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,760 I can see me looking up a hill, but we're rolling up. 573 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,760 You're definitely going. Are you picking up speed? 574 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,760 Whoa, we're actually like, this is some speed. This is kind of incredible. 575 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:23,760 Now in speaking with Capone, he believes that his car was also pushed up this hill by the spirits of the children. 576 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:24,760 Really spray. 577 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,760 Alright, here we're rolling. 578 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Oh my gosh! 579 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,760 Oh my gosh, you could not even see that. Ben! 580 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,760 That was so close. 581 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:52,760 Being in this perspective, you can't see anything past that tree around the corner, so that tree just came barreling down. 582 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,760 You guys almost became part of the legend. 583 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Okay, here we go. In three... 584 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,760 Two... 585 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:09,760 One... 586 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,760 Release the brake. 587 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,760 This is a lot of speed. 588 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,760 Don't turn your right. 589 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,760 There's like nothing going on. 590 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,760 You start out really slow and then you start really picking up speed and you went all the way up and over it. 591 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,760 You expect to maybe start rolling and then you're looking at going up a hill. 592 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,760 You expect to stop or even slow down. 593 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,760 But I just felt like we just started rolling up. 594 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,760 But I just felt like we just kept going faster and faster and faster. 595 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,760 What did it feel like at the beginning? Did it feel like it was a jolt? Like, you know, starting from a stop? 596 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,760 It was very, very gradual. 597 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:15,760 But it was a constant speed, is the thing. Like once it started, two seconds in, it was exactly that speed the entire time. 598 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,760 Well, it looks like this one was, you know, a success. Got up over the hill. 599 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,760 So why don't you back it up and we'll see if we can get some prints off of it. 600 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,760 So we just went over the tracks in Capone's car. 601 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,760 It is uphill. We were in the car. It rolled once we put it in neutral. 602 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,760 What I think we'll do is we'll start the level where a child would be if they were pushing the car. 603 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,760 Yeah, I'm not seeing anything that looks like a fingerprint or handprint whatsoever. 604 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,760 We've really dusted this down and I'm not seeing any prints at all. 605 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,760 So I dusted the entire trunk of Capone's car and there were no prints. 606 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,760 Probably were some pre-existing prints before he began his experiment. 607 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:15,760 Now most of the reports that we've heard about in this case is with smaller mid-sized sedans rolling up this hill over the train tracks. 608 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,760 So it makes me wonder, does size and weight matter? 609 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,760 A legend has it that this accident occurred with a school bus on these train tracks. 610 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:31,760 Can these kids that are pushing these other smaller cars up over this hill handle pushing something like our own school bus? 611 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,760 It's just big enough for the size matters, test guys. 612 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,760 I think this will work. Alright, let's wash up the back of it and get on the tracks. 613 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,760 Sounds good. 614 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,760 Alright, so the bus looks really clean and really good. I say we try and get it over the railroad tracks. 615 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,760 I agree. 616 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,760 Hey, Chilon, are you ready? 617 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,760 Yeah, we're rolling in here. Are you rolling out there? 618 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:04,760 I'm rolling. Three, two, one. 619 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:22,760 What would happen if we got a really large vehicle like an actual school bus? 620 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,760 Two, one. 621 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,760 Alright, they're rolling. 622 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,760 Holy. 623 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,760 Wow, it's really picking up some speed. 624 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,760 I think it's the kids pushing this. 625 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,760 I don't know. Very consistent speed. 626 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,760 Who's really going uphill over the track? 627 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,760 Oh my gosh. 628 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:07,760 How was that? 629 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,760 That was totally intense. Did you see how much speed he picked up? 630 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,760 You know how when you were in the car, you said it was kind of a concentrated speed? 631 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,760 It actually felt like we were picking up some speed. 632 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,760 And we figured out that the size of the automobile going uphill, you know, against gravity over the tracks, 633 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,760 really doesn't matter is what this experiment proved. 634 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,760 Alright guys, let's do basically the same thing we did on the car. 635 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,760 If there is anything oily, we should start to see it. 636 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,760 Let's try this handle here. 637 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,760 Well guys, it's taken a long time. I'm not finding a prince or palm prince or anything like that. 638 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,760 Yeah. 639 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,760 So we didn't find any prince on the bus either. 640 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,760 That's two vehicles that we've tested and no prince. 641 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,760 So the paranormal angle coming up short is time to start looking at other anomalies 642 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,760 that might cause vehicles to go up a hill apparently to find gravity. 643 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:29,760 Basically what this is going to do is give us a 3D model of the magnetic lines that are in the area. 644 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,760 So the Earth's magnetic field has direction to it and this magnet is suspended in this gimbal. 645 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,760 The red is pointing north. You can see it's dipping downwards. 646 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,760 And if that changes in the direction, just let me know. 647 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,760 There is a theory that if no one is being pushed by anything of paranormal origin, 648 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,760 maybe there is something being pulled. 649 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,760 So we decided to go out with our EMF meters and our magnet scope. 650 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,760 Okay, well starting out just right here, this is up at like 20 milligots already. 651 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,760 That's actually pretty high, but not surprising because if you look right above us, 652 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,760 we're underneath some high power tension lines. 653 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,760 I think we should walk just a quick grid pattern right here around the railroad track. 654 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,760 It's dropping off a little bit. 655 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,760 My magnet is pulling towards where we were. 656 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,760 It's dropping off to 10 and it goes even lower the further we get away from the power lines. 657 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,760 No change in direction. 658 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,760 The magnet is pointing towards all the power lines. 659 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,760 This is exactly what I expected. 660 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:36,760 We have high powered electrical lines right above us. 661 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,760 We're getting a very high reading, but it's constant. 662 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,760 We walk away, it disappears. 663 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,760 I would say we're not looking at anything anomalous in the magnetic field. 664 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,760 So if it's not supernatural and it has nothing to do with the magnetic field, 665 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,760 then I think we need to explore something like the geographical possibility. 666 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,760 I actually used to work for a civil engineer, so what we have here is a surveys level. 667 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,760 What we're going to do, we're going to start from the center of the train tracks 668 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,760 all the way down the middle of the road until we get where we started the vehicles. 669 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,760 We'll measure it every 25 feet. 670 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,760 Okay, let's go do it. 671 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,760 And set the first cone down. 672 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,760 So that is 150 feet, right? 673 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:29,760 Yep. 674 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,760 Alright, so Chilan, here's what I'm going to need you to do. 675 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,760 Take this level rod to each cone that you see here in the middle of the street. 676 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,760 Pull these measurements towards me and I'm going to take a reading. 677 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,760 Alright Chilan, you ready? 678 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,760 Ready, I'm at the first cone. 679 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,760 Alright, 6.1. 680 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,760 5, 6.5. 681 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,760 5, 3. 682 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,760 5, 1.5. 683 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,760 4, 6.5. 684 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,760 4, 1.5. 685 00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,760 Alright, last one. 686 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,760 Alright, last one is 3.5. 687 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,760 Give me a second to work the numbers here. 688 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:15,760 So after our three experiments, we decided to finally just do a land survey. 689 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,760 And what we found is very interesting. 690 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,760 We weren't looking up the hill at all. 691 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,760 In fact, we were looking at a one degree downgrade. 692 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,760 Who's down now? 693 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,760 Now where we were starting from, it slopes down, down, down, and at the very end comes up the hill. 694 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,760 But the surrounding terrain and everything makes it look like the whole thing slightly is uphill. 695 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,760 So it's an optical illusion. 696 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,760 It gives you just enough momentum to get up and over that hump of the train tracks. 697 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,760 It's amazing the tricks your eyes can play on you. 698 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:51,760 The actual accident of the school kids dying in the bus being hit by a train did happen in 1938, 699 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,760 but it happened in Salt Lake City about a thousand miles away. 700 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:00,760 But it was heavily covered in San Antonio, so it actually just became a part of local lore there. 701 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:08,760 This is a perfect example of a natural optical illusion getting mixed up with a legend of a paranormal event 702 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,760 that didn't even occur in this location. 703 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,760 I'm impressed guys. You did a really good job at opening this case wide open. 704 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,760 This is a myth I've been hearing about since I was a kid. 705 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,760 I am so excited you guys finally got an answer. 706 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,760 The Texas ghost track case has been solved. 707 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,760 you